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jamilnour

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Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 1, 2009 3:42 PM
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Hi,

Can you please confirm to me if I can digitally sign a DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6?

Best regards
Jamil
ADR_Jerry

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Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 4, 2009 1:11 AM   in response to: jamilnour in response to: jamilnour
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Thank you for your question.

DWFToolkit-7.6 doesn't support to digitally sign DWFx files. However, Autodesk Design Review (ADR) has such function. You can download ADR from here.

Please let me if you have any further questions.

Jerry
jamilnour

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Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:27 AM   in response to: ADR_Jerry in response to: ADR_Jerry
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Jerry,

Thank you for the information

OPSSS I can't find the link

Jamil
ADR_Jerry

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Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:37 AM   in response to: jamilnour in response to: jamilnour
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Sorry for missing the hyperlink. Please try this.
jamilnour

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Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 4, 2009 10:31 AM   in response to: ADR_Jerry in response to: ADR_Jerry
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Jerry,

I found, download and install ADR and test the digitally sign of DWFx...working well

But my request is to programmatically do this operation and not from a ready tool. Any solution?

Best regards
Jamil
Scott Sheppard ...
Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 6, 2009 5:35 PM   in response to: jamilnour in response to: jamilnour
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We cannot give out the code for signing DWF files. Otherwise people could
write applications to thwart the signing. Owen Wegard of CADLock can tell
you all about it.

wrote in message news:6283312@discussion.autodesk.com...
Jerry,

I found, download and install ADR and test the digitally sign of
DWFx...working well

But my request is to programmatically do this operation and not from a ready
tool. Any solution?

Best regards
Jamil
jamilnour

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Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 6, 2009 7:46 PM   in response to: Scott Sheppard ... in response to: Scott Sheppard ...
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Jerry,

What is the problem of having the API of locking and building applications to do so?

I don't know the strategy to Autodesk about that but if we compare DWF to PDF, we can see that Acrobat gave out the code of signing a PDF so any application can sign it using the right certificate.

How can I contact Owen Wegard?

Best regards
Jamil
Scott Sheppard ...
Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 8, 2009 1:28 PM   in response to: jamilnour in response to: jamilnour
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You can contact Owen at www.cadlock.com.
wrote in message news:6285060@discussion.autodesk.com...
Jerry,

What is the problem of having the API of locking and building applications
to do so?

I don't know the strategy to Autodesk about that but if we compare DWF to
PDF, we can see that Acrobat gave out the code of signing a PDF so any
application can sign it using the right certificate.

How can I contact Owen Wegard?

Best regards
Jamil
Owen Wengerd
Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 9, 2009 4:53 PM   in response to: Scott Sheppard ... in response to: Scott Sheppard ...
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Scott:

Exposing an API or documenting the file format does not compromise a
digital signature. In fact, not making it easy to programmatically add or
verify digital signatures makes them less useful. I haven't yet looked at
the digital signature support in ADR 2010. Is it really not documented or
exposed via API at all?
--
Owen Wengerd
President, ManuSoft <http://www.manusoft.com>
VP Americas, CADLock, Inc. <http://www.cadlock.com>


"Scott Sheppard - Autodesk" wrote in message
news:6284950@discussion.autodesk.com...
We cannot give out the code for signing DWF files. Otherwise people could
write applications to thwart the signing. Owen Wegard of CADLock can tell
you all about it.

wrote in message news:6283312@discussion.autodesk.com...
Jerry,

I found, download and install ADR and test the digitally sign of
DWFx...working well

But my request is to programmatically do this operation and not from a
ready tool. Any solution?

Best regards
Jamil
jamilnour

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Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 10, 2009 7:42 AM   in response to: Owen Wengerd in response to: Owen Wengerd
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Owen,

I can't find any documentation or sample about the digital signature into the Toolkit-7.6.

Please, can you confirm if I miss something?

Best regards
Jamil
Owen Wengerd
Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 10, 2009 3:21 PM   in response to: jamilnour in response to: jamilnour
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Jamil:

I took a quick look at ADR 2010, and it looks like Autodesk have created a
custom digital signature format instead of using the XPS digital signature
format (<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd372947(VS.85).aspx>). I
recommend ignoring Autodesk's undocumented and poorly supported
implementation and using Microsoft's instead. The current version of ADR
seems to ignore XPS digital signatures, so using XPS digital signatures will
require the use of XPS viewer or your own custom UI for signature
validation.
--
Owen Wengerd
President, ManuSoft <http://www.manusoft.com>
VP Americas, CADLock, Inc. <http://www.cadlock.com>


"jamilnour" wrote in message news:6286068@discussion.autodesk.com...
Owen,

I can't find any documentation or sample about the digital signature into
the Toolkit-7.6.

Please, can you confirm if I miss something?

Best regards
Jamil
jamilnour

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Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 11, 2009 2:22 PM   in response to: Owen Wengerd in response to: Owen Wengerd
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Owen,

Thank you for the information.

I am ready to go with the XPS option but it seems convertion DWF(x) to XPS looses picture quality.

Any suggestion?

Jamil
Scott Sheppard ...
Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 11, 2009 4:51 PM   in response to: jamilnour in response to: jamilnour
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That should not happen. The geometry in the DWFx for 2D should be in XPS
format.

wrote in message news:6286947@discussion.autodesk.com...
Owen,

Thank you for the information.

I am ready to go with the XPS option but it seems convertion DWF(x) to XPS
looses picture quality.

Any suggestion?

Jamil
Owen Wengerd
Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 11, 2009 7:58 PM   in response to: jamilnour in response to: jamilnour
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Jamil:

I am ready to go with the XPS option but it seems convertion DWF(x) to XPS
looses picture quality.


It's not necessary to "convert" the file. Try just renaming the .dwfx
file with a .xps file extension.
--
Owen Wengerd
President, ManuSoft <http://www.manusoft.com>
VP Americas, CADLock, Inc. <http://www.cadlock.com>
jamilnour

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Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 14, 2009 10:45 AM   in response to: Owen Wengerd in response to: Owen Wengerd
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Owen,

Thank you for the information....

But in some 2D DWFX files I have the message
"This DWF file contains extended content that cannot currently be displayed in this application" shown on IE 8.

so it is not fully supported?

Jamil
Owen Wengerd
Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 14, 2009 9:55 PM   in response to: jamilnour in response to: jamilnour
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Jamil:

I'm not familiar enough with DWF to say exactly what is supported, but I
do know that XPS viewer only displays 2D DWF graphics. Perhaps Scott or
someone else from Autodesk can clarify.
--
Owen Wengerd
President, ManuSoft <http://www.manusoft.com>
VP Americas, CADLock, Inc. <http://www.cadlock.com>


"jamilnour" wrote in message news:6289106@discussion.autodesk.com...
Owen,

Thank you for the information....

But in some 2D DWFX files I have the message
"This DWF file contains extended content that cannot currently be
displayed in this application" shown on IE 8.

so it is not fully supported?

Jamil
jamilnour

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Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 15, 2009 10:03 AM   in response to: Owen Wengerd in response to: Owen Wengerd
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http://freewheel.labs.autodesk.com/sample/Hotel5.dwf

The file above downloaded from freewheel site can't be opened inside IE after saved to DWFX then renamed to XPS.

Best regards
Jamil
Scott Sheppard ...
Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 16, 2009 5:36 PM   in response to: jamilnour in response to: jamilnour
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That file is a DWF file not a DWFx file.

wrote in message news:6289206@discussion.autodesk.com...
http://freewheel.labs.autodesk.com/sample/Hotel5.dwf

The file above downloaded from freewheel site can't be opened inside IE
after saved to DWFX then renamed to XPS.

Best regards
Jamil
Scott Sheppard ...
Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 16, 2009 5:37 PM   in response to: jamilnour in response to: jamilnour
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If you also have other data in the same file, such as a 3D view, the XPS
viewer is letting you know that the XPS viewer cannot display the non-XPS
data in the file.

wrote in message news:6289106@discussion.autodesk.com...
Owen,

Thank you for the information....

But in some 2D DWFX files I have the message
"This DWF file contains extended content that cannot currently be displayed
in this application" shown on IE 8.

so it is not fully supported?

Jamil
jamilnour

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Re: Digitally sign DWFx using the DWFToolkit-7.6
Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:13 AM   in response to: Scott Sheppard ... in response to: Scott Sheppard ...
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Scott,

Can you confirm it the "markups" of a DWFx file are packaged into a separate folder?

If yes, what is the name and how to know it?

I aready created a thread to programmatically access the markups of a DWFx. NO ANSWER

Thanks
Jamil