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HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Mar 30, 2009 3:31 PM
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While most using AutoCAD commercially will want to leave it on, for those of us developers who need the fastest possible startup times, one tweak to get better startup times is to turn off the InfoCenter toolbar and the 'pinging' of Autodesk's server which it does at startup. In previous releases, you were able to do that by disabling the loading of the InfoCenter and related components, which resided in their own extension dlls that were automatically loaded by AutoCAD at startup. However, Autodesk seems to not like your being able to do that, so in AutoCAD 2010, the InfoCenter and its related components are more tighly integrated into AutoCAD and cannot be disabled using the same means. In AutoCAD 2010, you can disable the InfoCenter toolbar by opening the registry, and going to the following key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Autodesk\AutoCAD\R18.0\ACAD-8001:409\InfoCenter In that key there's a value with the name "InfoCenterOn". Changing that value from 1 to 0 will disable the InfoCenter toolbar. -- http://www.caddzone.comAcadXTabs: MDI Document Tabs for AutoCAD 2009 Supporting AutoCAD 2000 through 2009 http://www.acadxtabs.comIntroducing AcadXTabs 2010: http://www.caddzone.com/acadxtabs/AcadXTabs2010.htm |
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Mar 30, 2009 3:47 PM
in response to: Tony Tanzillo
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Thanks for the tip, much appreciated!
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Mar 30, 2009 10:34 PM
in response to: Tony Tanzillo
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Mar 31, 2009 2:48 PM
in response to: Tony Tanzillo
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Thanks, was looking for some way to disable it, just yesterday.
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 1, 2009 2:38 AM
in response to: Tony Tanzillo
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 1, 2009 3:10 AM
in response to: Tony Tanzillo
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Excellent info.
Thanks Tony.
Jose
cadkicks.com
Edited by: joseguia on Mar 31, 2009 10:10 PM
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 2, 2009 2:47 PM
in response to: Tony Tanzillo
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However, Autodesk seems to not like your being able to do that, so in
AutoCAD 2010, the InfoCenter and its related components are more tighly
integrated into AutoCAD and cannot be disabled using the same means. The reason the info center dlls were merged into AcWindows.dll was to eliminate address space fragmentation and extra page faults. The very reason we added the registry key is to provide a way to turn it off. There was no emotional aspect to this decision.:-) Albert |
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 3, 2009 5:48 AM
in response to: szilvaa
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Thank you, Tony. Albert, while it's good to see at least partial acknowledgement of the need for an off switch, why is there no user interface for this? Users shouldn't be expected to go burrowing into the Registry to do something as simple as turn off an unwanted feature. Steve Johnson http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/ |
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 4, 2009 7:25 AM
in response to: Steve_Johnson
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Well I think the answer to that is obvious, which is that while Autodesk may not want to completely prevent the disabling of InfoCenter, it certainly does want it to be used. I don't really have a problem with it, other than that it slows down startup time, and while that may not be an issue for most, for a developer that routinely starts AutoCAD hundreds of times per hour in the typical code/test/debug cycle, every millisecond counts. -- http://www.caddzone.comAcadXTabs: MDI Document Tabs for AutoCAD 2009 Supporting AutoCAD 2000 through 2009 http://www.acadxtabs.comIntroducing AcadXTabs 2010: http://www.caddzone.com/acadxtabs/AcadXTabs2010.htm wrote in message news:6155221@discussion.autodesk.com... Thank you, Tony. Albert, while it's good to see at least partial acknowledgement of the need for an off switch, why is there no user interface for this? Users shouldn't be expected to go burrowing into the Registry to do something as simple as turn off an unwanted feature. Steve Johnson http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/ |
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 3, 2009 4:38 PM
in response to: szilvaa
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on 2009 we have scoured the lists looking for things to turn off to speed it up. if autocad is slow, and i have no intention of using the internet through autocad, of course i want to turn it off, so the main effect, cutting down fatal errors is good, but the side effect, not so good. at least document it, in help, the registry key.
wishlist item #1 speed
#2, lack of fatal errors
#3 gadgets
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 3, 2009 4:47 PM
in response to: art_turner
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art_turner .. do u mean you would like to see gadgets in CAD ?
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 3, 2009 6:56 PM
in response to: joseguia
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We dont need no stinkin' gadgets -
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 3, 2009 6:58 PM
in response to: art_turner
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 4, 2009 7:25 AM
in response to: szilvaa
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Hi Albert. Sorry, but I did get the impression that it was because Autodesk didn't want it to be disabled, but in light of your perfectly reasonable explaination, I apologize for that misperception :p -- http://www.caddzone.comAcadXTabs: MDI Document Tabs for AutoCAD 2009 Supporting AutoCAD 2000 through 2009 http://www.acadxtabs.comIntroducing AcadXTabs 2010: http://www.caddzone.com/acadxtabs/AcadXTabs2010.htm wrote in message news:6154557@discussion.autodesk.com... However, Autodesk seems to not like your being able to do that, so in AutoCAD 2010, the InfoCenter and its related components are more tighly
integrated into AutoCAD and cannot be disabled using the same means. The reason the info center dlls were merged into AcWindows.dll was to eliminate address space fragmentation and extra page faults. The very reason we added the registry key is to provide a way to turn it off. There was no emotional aspect to this decision.:-) Albert |
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 15, 2009 12:43 AM
in response to: szilvaa
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szilvaa wrote: The reason the info center dlls were merged into AcWindows.dll
was to eliminate address space fragmentation and extra page faults. The
very reason we added the registry key is to provide a way to turn it
off. There was no emotional aspect to this decision.:-) Albert Why move to this HKCU instead of HKLM as in previous versions? -- R.K. McSwain http://cadpanacea.com |
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 15, 2009 5:55 AM
in response to: R.K. McSwain
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So that it can be turned off on a per-user basis? -- http://www.caddzone.comAcadXTabs: MDI Document Tabs for AutoCAD 2009 Supporting AutoCAD 2000 through 2009 http://www.acadxtabs.comIntroducing AcadXTabs 2010: http://www.caddzone.com/acadxtabs/AcadXTabs2010.htm"R.K. McSwain" wrote in message news:6162424@discussion.autodesk.com... szilvaa wrote: The reason the info center dlls were merged into AcWindows.dll
was to eliminate address space fragmentation and extra page faults. The
very reason we added the registry key is to provide a way to turn it
off. There was no emotional aspect to this decision.:-) Albert Why move to this HKCU instead of HKLM as in previous versions? -- R.K. McSwain http://cadpanacea.com |
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 17, 2009 8:44 PM
in response to: Tony Tanzillo
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Tony Tanzillo wrote: So that it can be turned off on a per-user basis?
I get that much... But now if I want to disable it on dozens of machines, I have to do it per profile now... -- R.K. McSwain http://cadpanacea.com |
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 7, 2009 8:51 AM
in response to: Tony Tanzillo
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However, Autodesk seems to not like your being able to do that,
Quite the opposite - Autodesk provides the 'CAD Manager tool' to do just that - tailor the Infocenter to your needs. If you start Setup on the product dvd, you can find it in the section 'Tools'.
Simon Weel
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 7, 2009 9:29 AM
in response to: Simon_Weel
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which most people don't install..........:-)
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 8, 2009 8:41 PM
in response to: Simon_Weel
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There's quite a difference between the "tailoring" available in CAD Manager and in turning infocenter off completely. autodesk@koppesbouwkunde.nl wrote: However, Autodesk seems to not like your being able to do that,
Quite the opposite - Autodesk provides the 'CAD Manager tool' to do just
that - tailor the Infocenter to your needs. If you start Setup on the
product dvd, you can find it in the section 'Tools'. Simon Weel |
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 8, 2009 9:10 PM
in response to: Simon_Weel
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Based on its name, "CAD Manager Tool" strikes me as something that only CAD managers would/should use. Does the tool allow a CAD manager to turn off the InfoCenter for other users of AutoCAD in a work group (who, since they are not CAD managers, presumably wouldn't have the CAD Manager Tool installed)?
It's pretty clear, based on the gradual ramping up of the difficulty in turning off "web-connected" features over the past several years, that Autodesk prefers us to be connected.
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 9, 2009 7:18 AM
in response to: dmfrazier
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Does the tool allow a CAD manager to turn off the InfoCenter for other users of AutoCAD in a work group
Not as easy as I would like - with the tool, you have the choice of altering the settings on the machine on which the tool runs, or you can export the settings to a reg-file, which you can import on other machines. It would be logical if the CAD manager tool was another tab on the Options screen.
Autodesk prefers us to be connected.
And it isn't the only company. The question is, is it bad? If you're concerned about your privacy, then I guess using Google will reveal much more of your doings then using AutoCAD. If it's about bandwith or other resource usage, then I think the Infocenter is neglectable, unless you use a dialup connection...
Anyway, you can use the CAD manager tool to disable RSS-feeds and other webbased content. Disabling it alltogether would be a pitty, at least for 'normal' users; it's a real useful feature to get help.
Simon Weel
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 9, 2009 2:40 PM
in response to: Simon_Weel
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Sorry, I"m having some difficulty reading your wiki-markup reply which was reformatted by the discussion group software.
Autodesk prefers us to be connected.
And it isn't the only company. The question is, is it bad?
Yes it is bad. It is bad because AutoCAD is an application that supports third-party plug-in applications. That means malware can be crafted which can appear to be a useful third party extension application, and that malware can exploit the fact that the user has granted AutoCAD permission to access the internet (which means that they are also implicitly granting any plug-in that is loaded into AutoCAD permission to do the same). Do you think it is a bad that state-sponsored hackers have penetrated our power grid control systems? Do you think it's bad that state-sponsored hackers have broken into computers in the offices of foreign governments? Have you considered how many third-party extensions are available for AutoCAD, and how many users download and install them without giving even so much as a moment's thought to the question of whether they may contain malicious code that can literally steal their company's confidential design data from right under their noses? -- http://www.caddzone.comAcadXTabs: MDI Document Tabs for AutoCAD 2009 Supporting AutoCAD 2000 through 2009 http://www.acadxtabs.comIntroducing AcadXTabs 2010: http://www.caddzone.com/acadxtabs/AcadXTabs2010.htm |
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 9, 2009 12:21 AM
in response to: Simon_Weel
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I don't think the fact that Autodesk prefers 'tethered' applications is debatable. I also don't think InfoCenter should be turned off for most typical end users, but for those with specialized needs (like us developers), doing that serves a good purpose. Thanks for the tip on the CAD manager tool. I didn't think looking there. -- http://www.caddzone.comAcadXTabs: MDI Document Tabs for AutoCAD 2009 Supporting AutoCAD 2000 through 2009 http://www.acadxtabs.comIntroducing AcadXTabs 2010: http://www.caddzone.com/acadxtabs/AcadXTabs2010.htm wrote in message news:6157330@discussion.autodesk.com... However, Autodesk seems to not like your being able to do that, Quite the opposite - Autodesk provides the 'CAD Manager tool' to do just that - tailor the Infocenter to your needs. If you start Setup on the product dvd, you can find it in the section 'Tools'. Simon Weel |
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Apr 10, 2009 12:33 AM
in response to: Tony Tanzillo
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Why do you not think the InfoCenter "should be turned off for most end users"? What constructive purpose (ie., enhances my billability or productivity on a project) does it serve?
Just curious.
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Re: HOWTO: Turn Off InfoCenter in AutoCAD 2010
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Jul 24, 2009 3:55 PM
in response to: je2525
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Well I find that is reduces my startup from 11 to 10 seconds.
slightly off topic - when I am developing:
1. I find using a workspace with no tool pallets or ribbons open shaves another 3 seconds off.
2. If I don't need the companies standards - enterprise cui's etc, passing a seperate profile when starting ACAD for debugging saves a bit more.
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