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geoffriddle1239

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Total Building Load
Posted: May 28, 2008 1:28 AM
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Has anyone figured out how to add a field to the schedule that calculates the total load for the building. For example on the Power and Lighting usage schedule you can display the usage for each space but I would also like to quickly find the total load for all spaces. Thanks
kyleb_[autodesk]

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Re: Total Building Load
Posted: May 28, 2008 1:32 PM   in response to: geoffriddle1239 in response to: geoffriddle1239
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Geoff,
You can always use the "Total" feature for all of the Rooms/Spaces in your model. However, I doubt this is what you are actually looking for to make a design decision.

In Revit MEP 2009 we provide the user an entire building load value, but this is NOT the sum of the peak loads for the individual Spaces in the model. We are simulating the loads for each Space every hour of the day, for every day of the month. We report to you the highest value found for each Space, which is the Peak Load for that particular Space.

The problem is that those Peak Loads rarely occur at the same time of the year, so summing the Peak Loads will result in a higher total building load than is actually every experienced. Think about it, one wall might have southern exposure, and another might have western exposure, they would hit their individual peaks at different times of the year due to the many variables that influence the load.

We calculate the Incident Peak Load, which is really what you need to use to make the design decision. To calculate the Incident Peak Load for the building, we as summing the individual Space Loads for each calculation point (hourly calculation), and then report to the user the Peak Load that is found in that process.

Make sense?

Cheers,
Kyle B
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geoffriddle1239

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Re: Total Building Load
Posted: May 28, 2008 2:00 PM   in response to: kyleb_[autodesk] in response to: kyleb_[autodesk]
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I understand where you are coming from, but all I am trying to do is find the power requirements for all loads (receptacle, lighting, mechanical equipment) so I can get an better idea of what size service I am going to need. I just didn't want to have to do this by hand.
kyleb_[autodesk]

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Re: Total Building Load
Posted: May 28, 2008 10:36 PM   in response to: geoffriddle1239 in response to: geoffriddle1239
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Attachment Load Schedule.png (78.1 KB)
Ahhhh, gotcha. Well that can be done as well, you just need to be good with schedules.

You basically need to schedule the Actual Load values for each Volume (Room or Space depending on your version) in the building, and then create a Calculated Parameter, with the proper project units, that sums the values.

I've attached an image of the end result. I made that schedule in a couple of minutes in my Urban House MEP model, so I went ahead and swapped out the existing one on my blog with this newer one. Go ahead and download it if you want to see this in action. You can even copy the schedule to your project if you'd like. Find the model at

http://revit.downloads.autodesk.com/download/RMEContent/Urban_House_MEP_-_2008.rvt

Cheers,
Kyle B
Revit MEP Product Manager
emcgann

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Re: Total Building Load
Posted: Sep 18, 2008 4:32 PM   in response to: kyleb_[autodesk] in response to: kyleb_[autodesk]
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Is there a way to get the total W/SF for lighting loads. Total for the entire building.

I know how to get it on a space by space level, but not a total value for the entire building.

If you select "calculate totals" for the Actual Lighting Load per area in the schedule it returns the total of all the w/ft2 of the spaces added up (i.e. 15.60 w/ft2), it does not divide the total actual lighting load by the total sq. ft. of the building.