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Sean M

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wall display in plan
Posted: Apr 6, 2007 6:47 PM
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Please help I have a wall display issue I hope has a solution.
I have a wall style that has 3 ½” stud with ½” gypsum board on either side. I do not want to show the gyp on my plan details just the stud thickness. The only thing in display settings (low detail) shows the wall at the overall 4 ½” instead of 3 ½”.

Is there a way within the display settings where I can hide the gypsum board and retain the stud visibility? If so can anyone explain how this is done? Or will I have to rely on layers to do this (freeze/thaw)?
tx51210

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Re: wall display in plan
Posted: Apr 6, 2007 7:04 PM   in response to: Sean M in response to: Sean M
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If you set the gyp board width to -1/2" and the offset location against the stud, the wall will dimension to the stud and not the gyp board. Then you modify the display settings of the wall for each display style to have it on or off as you choose.
David_W._Koch

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Re: wall display in plan
Posted: Apr 6, 2007 9:34 PM   in response to: Sean M in response to: Sean M
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Turn off the display of the Shrink Wrap component and the GWB component and turn on the display of the Stud component.

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Sean M

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Re: wall display in plan
Posted: Apr 6, 2007 9:43 PM   in response to: David_W._Koch in response to: David_W._Koch
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Got it. Thanks to all.
Paul F. Aubin
Re: wall display in plan
Posted: Apr 6, 2007 10:51 PM   in response to: Sean M in response to: Sean M
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Depending on your version, you may only need to turn on the Structural
Display Configuration to get this. By default in the last few releases, the
strucutral component of the wall has been isolated in a special display rep.
Go to File > New and choose the Structural Model (Imperial Stb).dwt (there
are also metric and CTB ones). In this file, draw a "Stud-4 GWB-0.625 Each
Side" wall from the walls palette. Then turn on the Structural display
configuration. In 2006, 2007 it worked correctly. Looks like some one goofed
it up in 2008 here cause I had to go to the Display Manager, and edit the
Plan Structural set and turn off Plan for Walls.

Anyhow, it is esentially the same thing that David suggested, it is just
built that way OTB already.

As for dimensioning as suggested above, you don't need negative offsets in
2007 or 2008. Just edit the walls style and on the components tab, click the
components you want to dimension.


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Doug Broad
Re: wall display in plan
Posted: Apr 7, 2007 12:36 AM   in response to: Paul F. Aubin in response to: Paul F. Aubin
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Hi Paul and David,

Great tips. Thanks. On my 2007 and 2008 versions the structural display was messed up as
well but thanks to your suggestions I've fixed my template. I wonder why they didn't
extend the concept to refine the AEC dims. Would have been nice to see them have a
structural display rep set to structural by style.

"Paul F. Aubin" wrote in message news:5544632@discussion.autodesk.com...
Depending on your version, you may only need to turn on the Structural
Display Configuration to get this. By default in the last few releases, the
strucutral component of the wall has been isolated in a special display rep.
Go to File > New and choose the Structural Model (Imperial Stb).dwt (there
are also metric and CTB ones). In this file, draw a "Stud-4 GWB-0.625 Each
Side" wall from the walls palette. Then turn on the Structural display
configuration. In 2006, 2007 it worked correctly. Looks like some one goofed
it up in 2008 here cause I had to go to the Display Manager, and edit the
Plan Structural set and turn off Plan for Walls.

Anyhow, it is esentially the same thing that David suggested, it is just
built that way OTB already.

As for dimensioning as suggested above, you don't need negative offsets in
2007 or 2008. Just edit the walls style and on the components tab, click the
components you want to dimension.


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paul


Paul F. Aubin
Paul F. Aubin Consulting Services

Current book editions, available now:
Mastering Autodesk Architectural Desktop 2007,
Autodesk Architectural Desktop 2007: An Advanced Implementation Guide
(Second Edition)
Mastering Autodesk Revit Building
Mastering VIZ Render 2006 - A resource for Autodesk Architectural Desktop
Users

Buy books and download resources online at:
www.paulaubin.com
Leo the Builder
Re: wall display in plan
Posted: Apr 9, 2007 2:06 PM   in response to: Paul F. Aubin in response to: Paul F. Aubin
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I have generally stayed away from building complex adt walls.
Adding furring and GWB and then changing the display system to not display
them
gives funny results such as having toilets fixtures "disconnected" from
walls.
Unless there is a better method(s) that I am not aware of.

Leo



"Paul F. Aubin" wrote in message
news:5544632@discussion.autodesk.com...
Depending on your version, you may only need to turn on the Structural
Display Configuration to get this. By default in the last few releases, the
strucutral component of the wall has been isolated in a special display rep.
Go to File > New and choose the Structural Model (Imperial Stb).dwt (there
are also metric and CTB ones). In this file, draw a "Stud-4 GWB-0.625 Each
Side" wall from the walls palette. Then turn on the Structural display
configuration. In 2006, 2007 it worked correctly. Looks like some one goofed
it up in 2008 here cause I had to go to the Display Manager, and edit the
Plan Structural set and turn off Plan for Walls.

Anyhow, it is esentially the same thing that David suggested, it is just
built that way OTB already.

As for dimensioning as suggested above, you don't need negative offsets in
2007 or 2008. Just edit the walls style and on the components tab, click the
components you want to dimension.


--
paul


Paul F. Aubin
Paul F. Aubin Consulting Services

Current book editions, available now:
Mastering Autodesk Architectural Desktop 2007,
Autodesk Architectural Desktop 2007: An Advanced Implementation Guide
(Second Edition)
Mastering Autodesk Revit Building
Mastering VIZ Render 2006 - A resource for Autodesk Architectural Desktop
Users

Buy books and download resources online at:
www.paulaubin.com
Chris Yanchar
Re: wall display in plan
Posted: Apr 7, 2007 4:56 PM   in response to: David_W._Koch in response to: David_W._Koch
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And because I'm quite proud of the AutoCAD Architecture team, here is a
video of how this is hopefully much more intuitive in 2008. :)

http://adt_blog.typepad.com/between_the_walls/2007/04/autocad_archite_1.html

Chris
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AutoCAD Design & DWF Apps
AEC
Autodesk, Inc.

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Turn off the display of the Shrink Wrap component and the GWB component and
turn on the display of the Stud component.

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David Koch
Autodesk Discussion Group Facilitator
Using ADT 2004 at work; access to 2005, 2006 & 2007 at home