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I hope everything is getting better for you Chad, and will continue to. I
know a lot of people will be happy to help develop the ObjectDCL program.

Best wishes to you and your family.

--

Tim
"A blind man lets nothing block his vision."


wrote in message news:5246892@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi, over the last while you might have know that I have been unable to work
on ObjectDCL due to a severe medical condition. For this I must apologize.
I have decided that since I cannot put the energy in that it deserves, I am
going to post ObjectDCL as an open source project on www.sourceforge.net.
Anyone will be able to download the compiled software and anyone will be
able to sign in and contribute to its further development. Essentially
ObjectDCL will become a community development project.

Thanks everyone, Chad Wanless

Chad,

Thanks for your thoughtfulness. Hope you feel better soon.


wrote in message news:5246892@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi, over the last while you might have know that I have been unable to work on ObjectDCL
due to a severe medical condition. For this I must apologize. I have decided that since
I cannot put the energy in that it deserves, I am going to post ObjectDCL as an open
source project on www.sourceforge.net. Anyone will be able to download the compiled
software and anyone will be able to sign in and contribute to its further development.
Essentially ObjectDCL will become a community development project.

Thanks everyone, Chad Wanless

There's only one Chad!!! I hope everyone else can contribute to your
achievement!!!

Visions...without them we'd still be in the dark...

To all who contribute and share there inginuity...I appload OUTLOUD!!!

Autodesk, without these individual, you'd still be in the box...

You should share your wealth with those who made a difference in your
product...like Chad, and so many others...

I speak in silence, so that I bring no recognition to myself...only know
this...remember those who've sacrified their lives, jobs, time, money...

I no longer code, but work on my education, and personal goals, which don't
include ADT...nor your present nor future releases....

wrote in message news:5246892@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi, over the last while you might have know that I have been unable to work
on ObjectDCL due to a severe medical condition. For this I must apologize.
I have decided that since I cannot put the energy in that it deserves, I am
going to post ObjectDCL as an open source project on www.sourceforge.net.
Anyone will be able to download the compiled software and anyone will be
able to sign in and contribute to its further development. Essentially
ObjectDCL will become a community development project.

Thanks everyone, Chad Wanless

Hi Chad;

I hope that you get better!

Chad,

Peace, Faith, Hope. Your always in our Prayers.

jb

Chad,
Thankyou for your generosity, I wish you all the best for the future,

David

Hi Chad,

This is great news. I was feeling so desapointed to give up on ObjectDCL.
But now I feel relieved. The world would be a much better place if everybody
would express this kind of generosity. With all my sympathy and
consideration, I wish you a speedy recovery and get well soon.

Constantin

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5246892@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi, over the last while you might have know that I have been unable to work
on ObjectDCL due to a severe medical condition. For this I must apologize.
I have decided that since I cannot put the energy in that it deserves, I am
going to post ObjectDCL as an open source project on www.sourceforge.net.
Anyone will be able to download the compiled software and anyone will be
able to sign in and contribute to its further development. Essentially
ObjectDCL will become a community development project.

Thanks everyone, Chad Wanless

Chad,

Thanks for the info, and best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Ken Krupa
Krupa CADD Solutions



wrote in message news:5246892@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi, over the last while you might have know that I have been unable to work
on ObjectDCL due to a severe medical condition. For this I must apologize.
I have decided that since I cannot put the energy in that it deserves, I am
going to post ObjectDCL as an open source project on www.sourceforge.net.
Anyone will be able to download the compiled software and anyone will be
able to sign in and contribute to its further development. Essentially
ObjectDCL will become a community development project.

Thanks everyone, Chad Wanless

My English level is too poor to write my thought, but I think that Michael
has just done it. I hope that you will find a good health quickly.

Sincerely
Bruno Toniutti

Chad

Best wishes and get well soon.

Gary

Chad,

Though I'm not familiar with your software, I am aware of the respect it deserves.

Hope you can beat whatever is ailing you.

Thanks for open source, but obviously everyone here hopes you will return to the
project eventually.

Regards
Joe Burke

Hi Chad.
Do you remember how many e-mails I sent you and you sent me to test
ObjectDCL ?
I don't know you personally, but I feel that you are a friend of mine.
I hope that you will solve your problems soon or at least in a not too much
long period.

Thanks for all, because with ObjectDCL I worked very well.

And I think also that

A U T O D E S K m u s t t h a n k y o u

because your software made Autocad more powerful and easy to use.

Thanks again.

Ciao
D o m e n i c o

Chad,
Many thanks...
Most importantly, stay in touch and let us know how you are doing...

Get well!!


wrote in message news:5246892@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi, over the last while you might have know that I have been unable to work
on ObjectDCL due to a severe medical condition. For this I must apologize.
I have decided that since I cannot put the energy in that it deserves, I am
going to post ObjectDCL as an open source project on www.sourceforge.net.
Anyone will be able to download the compiled software and anyone will be
able to sign in and contribute to its further development. Essentially
ObjectDCL will become a community development project.

Thanks everyone, Chad Wanless

Thank you Chad for everything. I hope you are better.

Marek Salamak
CADmost Poland

Why don't we try to invent something to help Chad (if he needs help) and his
family ?
Why don't try,
who will be able to update the ObjectDCL C++ code,
to insert in the software, an option, a command,
that goes to a web page
where everyone can send a contribution to the author ?

And if here is someone that has a better idea,
this is the moment to expose it.

Chad is giving us something,
and it is right that we have to give something to him.

I hope strongly that these intents will have success.

thanks

domenico

Chad,

While I appluade your generosity, I regret its neccessity. My thoughts are
for you and your family in this time of stress.

--
R. Robert Bell

Chad - Best wishes and thanks for your generosity.

Chad,

don't you think autodesk could be interested in an objectdcl which supports AutoCAD 2007 as soon as possible?
They may be able to help you. Charly Crocker, the autodesk map product manager knows the problem. Will you contact him? charlie.crocker@autodesk.com

Best regards, Albert

domenico, GREAT idea

Why don't you start a new thread to get the ball rolling.

Chad would you be in favor of us putting together a website and adding a contribute to the author button in ObjectDCL?





Reply From: domenico
Date: Jul/26/06 - 12:25 (CDT) NEW!
Reply
Re: ObjectDCL is going open source


Why don't we try to invent something to help Chad (if he needs help) and his
family ?
Why don't try,
who will be able to update the ObjectDCL C++ code,
to insert in the software, an option, a command,
that goes to a web page
where everyone can send a contribution to the author ?

And if here is someone that has a better idea,
this is the moment to expose it.

Chad is giving us something,
and it is right that we have to give something to him.

I hope strongly that these intents will have success.

thanks

Hi Chad
I think that it is right that
if you give us something
we must give you something.

But for me it is not possible organize this things,
for a lot of reasons that I prefer do not explain here.

But if someone wants improve this idea
(preferably deciding everything with you),
I'm ready to give my contribution.

Get well soon.

ciao
domenico

Chad,

Thank you Chad. I was dreading having to learn .NET! Now I wish I knew C++ so I could contribute!

Best Wishes,

James LeVieux

Hi I have the sourceforge.net objectdcl site up now. I have not uploaded the files as of yet. I will try to do that by Monday or Tuesday Aug. 14 or 15

Thanks Chad

Chad, I haven't been able to find any ObjectDCL sites on SourceForge.net as yet. Can you post a link or give us an update on both the status of ObjectDCL and your self?

Thanks,
Ron

Greetings to all,

As you already know by now,
ObjectDCL has been sold.

It is a fact.

Martin Leduc P.E. and I, Andrea Andreetti,
Are founders of DuctiSOFT inc. and are now owners of all legitimate and legal rights
of this product created by M. Chad Wanless, according to the legal agreement
signed between the two parties.

This transaction is to ensure the survival and proper operation of ObjectDCL.

www.DuctiSOFT.com will be available shortly and will
allow you to download the new official version of ObjectDCL

Thanks again M. Chad Wanless.
Hoping you will enjoy the upcoming version.

Sincerly,



Andrea Andreetti
President DuctiSOFT inc.

Gregory S. Lyons wrote:



Well, I'm not a layer, but seems to me that they can do with their code
what they want, but the version already released under GPL remains that
way as they can't rescind that. So, the question is whether there is
interest in maintaining the GPL version separately from the commercial
version.

--

I hope you didn't pay too much for it.

--
http://www.caddzone.com

AcadXTabs: MDI Document Tabs for AutoCAD 2004/2005/2006/2007
http://www.acadxtabs.com

wrote in message news:5505483@discussion.autodesk.com...
Greetings to all,

As you already know by now,
ObjectDCL has been sold.

It is a fact.

Martin Leduc P.E. and I, Andrea Andreetti,
Are founders of DuctiSOFT inc. and are now owners of all legitimate and legal rights
of this product created by M. Chad Wanless, according to the legal agreement
signed between the two parties.

This transaction is to ensure the survival and proper operation of ObjectDCL.

www.DuctiSOFT.com will be available shortly and will
allow you to download the new official version of ObjectDCL

Thanks again M. Chad Wanless.
Hoping you will enjoy the upcoming version.

Sincerly,



Andrea Andreetti
President DuctiSOFT inc.

Tony,
Chad can do whatever he likes with is code. He can release it under the GPL and sell it to any companies he wants. "His" code however is whatever he had prior to releasing it under the GPL. DuctiSOFT can sell the pre-GPL code in any way they like, but cannot use contributed code unless it is GPL'd as well. If DuctiSOFT closes the source and uses GPL code, that's where it becomes illegal. Martti is correct about the important question being whether or not to continue development on the GPL version if the DuctiSOFT version is closed source. I am not a lawyer, and if I'm wrong about any of this I'd be happy to find out.

Tavis

Sorry, and apologies to Chad.

When I wrote that, I was under the assumption that
the open source project was pulled, and no longer
available to the public.

IOW, I didn't know about "OpenDCL" when I wrote
that, which of course, changes everything.

And, just to clarify, selling ObjectDCL to anyone is
not a breach of the GPL. Removing the project and
the source from public availability, would have been.

One other point of note, is that while the original
source may have been sold to (who?), they are still
free to incorporate subsequent work from the open
source project into their derivative, which I find
a bit troubling.

--
http://www.caddzone.com

AcadXTabs: MDI Document Tabs for AutoCAD 2004/2005/2006/2007
http://www.acadxtabs.com

wrote in message news:5511328@discussion.autodesk.com...
Tony,
Chad can do whatever he likes with is code. He can release it under the GPL and sell it to any companies he wants. "His" code however is whatever he had prior to releasing it under the GPL. DuctiSOFT can sell the pre-GPL code in any way they like, but cannot use contributed code unless it is GPL'd as well. If DuctiSOFT closes the source and uses GPL code, that's where it becomes illegal. Martti is correct about the important question being whether or not to continue development on the GPL version if the DuctiSOFT version is closed source. I am not a lawyer, and if I'm wrong about any of this I'd be happy to find out.

Tavis

Hi Owen. Thanks for the clarification.

I've had little-to-no exposure to ObjectDCL,
so don't know much about its origins.

--
http://www.caddzone.com

AcadXTabs: MDI Document Tabs for AutoCAD 2004/2005/2006/2007
http://www.acadxtabs.com

"Owen Wengerd" wrote in message news:5514784@discussion.autodesk.com...
Tony:



Just to clarify, they (and anyone else) are free to incorporate the open
source code into a derivative product only if they also publish the
derivative product's source code under the GPL.

BTW, if you check the OpenDCL credits you'll notice that the original
ObjectDCL code incorporated copyrighted source code from a number of open
sources. At least a few of these sources allow their code to be used only
for non-commercial or open source software. The original ObjectDCL code did
not even credit these sources, so it's doubtful that the code was used with
permission. If this is true, even software based on the original ObjectDCL
source code may not be sold as a commercial application so long as the
offending code is used without a license. :)
--
Owen Wengerd
President, ManuSoft ==> http://www.manusoft.com
VP Americas, CADLock, Inc. ==> http://www.cadlock.com

I just wish that Andrea would finally step up and give me the version of Sduct that works with 2007 and newer, that he promised me back when 2007 came out.