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I "think" that's called a laptop.....

This week at the 2009 Consumer Electronics Show there was a hand-held
projector being marketed but my customers would not like me to markup or
redline a proposal projected onto one of their walls ;-)

"Dennis Jeffrey" wrote in message
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A really big one at that. If you have the budget for a 42" touchscreen, you
could plug it into the laptop.

I use a projector. There's some really small ones out there now.

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...he meant the kind you can roll up like a mat...

;-)


"Dean Saadallah" wrote in message
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Have you picked up, carried, and walked a 42" LCD on your own across a
parking lot lately? Airport? Building Elevator? Construction jobsite office?
Or just out of your conference room and to someone's desk nearby?

Yeah, that's why there is no market for such a luggable.

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google bucky balls.

"Dean Saadallah" wrote in message
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He noted drafting table and portfolio case being carried around: but with a
roll up we all could give up our paper drawings too LOL

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It really is "bucky balls" named after Buckminster Fuller being about a new
era of carbon based nano technologies also spelled buckyballs without a
space.

"Matt Stachoni" wrote in message
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On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 01:49:15 +0000, clintonG wrote:



Safety tip: Check your spelling..

Matt
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Yes, the fold-up brings an interesting twist. There are several technologies
that enable touch the two most common so far have been resistive and
capacitance. I and perhaps others of you may have or actually have used a
"SmartBoard" or some such device many of which are resistive which becomes
kind of obvious as a user can literally feel the fingertip indent the
surface ever so slightly.

I would surmise fold-up developers would choose capacitance to remain as
light and thin as possible threading the wiring weaved into the material of
the screen itself. Being an arm-chair engineer I see no reason why there
cannot be such a fold-up touch-screen at this point in time. Still, it would
take a very sensitive operator to learn to get the feel for the light touch
that would be required lest the surface of the fold-up move around.

Maybe the best way then would be to design the fold-up so the frame would
only touch the screen across its top to carry the weight of the screen
itself the remainder of which would statically cling to the surface of an
available wall when an electric charge was emitted allowing the wall to
resist the movement of the screen back and forth as it was touched while
allowing the screen to be peeled away from the wall without leaving any
remnants when the current is switched off.

Of course such a device would be required to carry a UL label to advise the
operator that extended use may cause one's gluteus maximus to tingle. :-)


"dgorsman" wrote in message news:6101073@discussion.autodesk.com...

At one point I was doing volunteer work helping vendors take down displays
after a "job fair". One of them had a large 8 foot tall x 10 foot wide
backdrop suspended on a interconnected framework (that I could stand on
safely, no less). Imagine my surprise when after a couple of locking pieces
were removed the framework folded in on itself to the size of a suitcase.
Now if the same framework could be set up for a touchscreen system it would
be an interesting portable review system. Not sure how thin can a
touch-sensitive display system actually be though?

I've seen one in a video while watching the video of Microsoft's Steve
Baldmer give the keynote speech for CES 2009 this past week. He had some
young lady from research doing some demos talking about Microsoft Surface.

I thought and presumably everybody else thought she was using a Tablet PC
but it seemed to be a bit larger about the size of a place mat at a
restaurant as she held it cradled it while using a stylus for I/O.

After she was through talking Baldmer picked it out of her hand and bent it
back and forth a few times and tossed it onto a table-top. It appeared to be
perhaps 1/4" to 1/2" thick.

Soon we'll see them stuck to the side of pickup trucks wirelessly
advertising Tony's Lawn Care :-)

"AllenJessup" wrote in message news:6104497@discussion.autodesk.com...

Cut the top & bottom off Bucky Balls (Buckminsterfullerene) and you get a
Bucky Tube. That's what they think they can use to make the roll-up screens.



Allen

ROFL

We have thousands of illegal Mexicans up in Milwaukee. Literally. Many
people complain and then in the next breath ask you what its costing you to
get your grass cut.

"Ric Hammond" wrote in message
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in these parts it will be Cuidado del césped de Antonio

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"clintonG" wrote in message
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I've seen one in a video while watching the video of Microsoft's Steve
Baldmer give the keynote speech for CES 2009 this past week. He had some
young lady from research doing some demos talking about Microsoft Surface.

I thought and presumably everybody else thought she was using a Tablet PC
but it seemed to be a bit larger about the size of a place mat at a
restaurant as she held it cradled it while using a stylus for I/O.

After she was through talking Baldmer picked it out of her hand and bent it
back and forth a few times and tossed it onto a table-top. It appeared to be
perhaps 1/4" to 1/2" thick.

Soon we'll see them stuck to the side of pickup trucks wirelessly
advertising Tony's Lawn Care :-)

"AllenJessup" wrote in message news:6104497@discussion.autodesk.com...

Cut the top & bottom off Bucky Balls (Buckminsterfullerene) and you get a
Bucky Tube. That's what they think they can use to make the roll-up screens.



Allen

Maybe he knows something we don't already know ??? ClintonG has a way of making one think way-outside the box. Imagine carrying this calculator around all day > http://oldcomputers.net/trs100.html

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:42:08 +0000, James Maeding wrote:



Because its clintonG........:)

Clinton G, Have you been reading my draft blog posts? Have been thinking about this sort of thing for some time and nearly have finished post. My preferred form factor isn't quite 42", closer to portable drawing board. Will add a link when it's online

According to my calculations that is definately a dream. Look at this way; Arch D size is 24" x 36". The drawings we produce and plot to 24x36 (1/8" text height) are best viewed when scanned to 200dpi or more. Anything less than 200dpi starts to look really fuzzy, even worse when you scan a copy of a copy. So given the varialbles; 24x36 @ 200dpi would require a minimum display resolution of 4800 x 7200 dpi and in the case of being able to see at full size "pixels" would be a more appropriate word to use. Whoah ! A 42" 1080p plasma screen only has a resolution of 1920x1080 dpi. In order to do what you are asking it would require a WHUXGA display (7680x4800dpi). I'm not sure if such a display even exists not to mention you are wanting this in a 42" clam shell form factor. Also you would need software and hardware capable recording and storing the "mark ups" that don't look like crayola on paper. Good luck with your search ;)

This idea of yours really has merit. There is a very lucrative market out there for a product that would allow viewing and markup of a large format technical drawings without having to pan or zoom. Unfortunetly this type of technology does not exist today. Until display manufacturers develop such product at a resonable cost and still be profitable i'ts just a dream. Threre may be more major hurdles with the hardware (computer/markup devices) and sofware to make this all work, I just don't know given the complexity of such a system. But if given the opportunity this is one product that I would definately be willing to sink my own $$$ into.

Cheers

Not untill I googled it, very interesting concept. I agree that focusing on one market would reduce the profitability of such a product(s).

BTW, our co. spent many thousands of dollars purchasing something similar to a "smart board" thinking they could use it for marking up plans. Even after explaining to management (sr engineers) before hand that the technology is just not there. They were thinking "this day and age yeah right" rather than looking at all the facts (easier to do that when its paid for by the taxpayer). According to them it was'nt such a waste of taxpayer $$$ after all. They now have a very nice presentation tool at there disposal. And as I had suggested early on, they are now proclaiming that Design Review is "FREE" and we should try it - I give up, lol.

So how is it that these businesses keep their distribution and inventory costs at a level that allows them to be profitable ? I'm guessing multiple distribution points is one factor. Maybe I should go back to school and take some classes on economics before giving my hard earned money away.